Tales of Halloween (2015)

Episode 55, 2 Guys and a Chainsaw

Craig:  Hello, and welcome to another edition of 2 Guys and a Chainsaw. I’m Craig. 

Todd:  And I’m Todd. 

Craig:  And for our last film of this year’s Halloween series season, we decided to go with the anthology film, Tales of Halloween. Now Todd and I, I believe, are both pretty big fans of these types of anthology horror movies. Last season, last year, we did Trick or Treat which both of us loved and raved about. So this week I thought we would try the most recent, anthology Halloween film that I’m aware of called Tales of Halloween from 2015. I heard about this when it came out. It had some pretty cool poster art that I saw on the Internet, but I didn’t know a whole lot about it going in and I hadn’t seen it. Today was the first time I had seen it. Had you heard anything about it, Todd? 

Todd:  No. I didn’t know a thing about it. Although, after I started looking it up, I did notice the poster art, and there was something about the poster art that, I don’t know if it came up in my feed at some point, or maybe that’s a famous painting and I don’t even know it. But, yeah, I recognize the poster, but I did not recognize the movie. So I’m glad you suggested it because you’re right, I am a big fan of these anthology kind of films, and I think they’re perfect for the season. Because, you get like, well in this case, you get like 10 movies for the price of 1. 

Craig:  Yeah. I I totally agree. And you know, we went on and on about how much we liked trick or treat, and, that’s one that anymore, if I don’t watch that during the Halloween season, I feel like the season is incomplete. And, the creator director of that movie has been promising a sequel for a long time, but Todd doesn’t seem like much is happening with that. Tales of Halloween, in my humble opinion, could almost serve as a spiritual sequel to that movie. They have a lot of things in common. One of the things that they have in common is just that we get, a collection of stories. In trick or treat, we only got 4 here.   Like you said, we get 10. But both of them are set on 1 Halloween night in this one small Todd, and you get some overlap, with the different stories. You see characters from different stories popping up in the different, vignettes. In this one in particular, you see a lot of the kids who are out trick or treating pop up in in a bunch of the different stories. And that’s always kind of neat to see how they interconnect. Each one of these stories was tackled by a different director, either a fairly new but established director or an up and coming director. And, I thought one of the things that I thought was the strength of the movie was that it seemed pretty seamless. Yeah.   They all had different styles, and and you could definitely identify some different characteristics of the different directors. But it still felt like a cohesive movie as well, and I thought that, was a positive thing about it. The movie opens up with kind of the connective tissue that’s gonna that hold it all together. There is it opens with this cool opening sequence that looks kinda like a spooky spooky pop up book, and these different locations that we’re gonna be seeing throughout the course of the movie. Of course, it’s animated. And then we’ve got, Adrienne Barbeau, the actress playing, a radio DJ, hosting, her show on Halloween night. Adrienne Barbeau is kind of paying tribute to herself here. She played a very similar role, in John Carpenter’s The Fog.   And she her narration, and it’s not really narration, she just has kind of some radio commentary that comes between some of the stories, but it was kind of a neat thing, to see her, not   necessarily reprising that role, but certainly   paying homage. Attention all you that role, but certainly paying   homage. Attention all you trick or treaters. It’s time to get your goo along. For tonight is All Hallows Eve, my favorite time of the year. Our little town really comes   and then we get right into the first story, which I’m glad they put this one first because I thought that it really set the pace and the mood for, the film. This first story was called Sweet Tooth, directed by Dave Parker. And what we have here basically is a young boy, Mikey, is home, after having finished his trick or treating, and he’s gorging himself on his candy. Meanwhile, his babysitter and her boyfriend are sitting on the couch, kind of flirting back and forth with one another and and teasing him. And the boyfriend warns Mikey that he needs to be careful not to eat all his candy because he needs to save some for sweet tooth. And the boyfriend goes into this story, which is very similar to any other kind of urban legend that you’re gonna hear around, centered around the holiday. Basically, the story goes there was a little boy named Timothy Blake who loved Halloween, but his parents were really strict. They would allow him to go out and collect all the candy trick or treating, but when he got home, they confiscated it and wouldn’t let him eat it, claiming that it would make him fat and lazy and, they didn’t want that out of their son.   So Mikey asked, Okay, well Todd did the parents do with the Halloween candy? And then we cut back to the story and we see little Timmy coming down the stairs and his parents are sitting on the couch eating all of his candy, and not only eating it, but kind of playing this seductive game with one another where they’re eating the candy out of one another’s mouths. It’s all very sensuous and something that a little kid definitely wouldn’t want see. Well, the story goes, that this, event kind of, broke little Timmy, I guess, and he went and got a meat cleaver and hacked his parents up, and ate all of the candy that they hadn’t eaten. But when he was done with that, he still wasn’t satisfied. Little Mikey listening to the story says, well, but all the candy was gone, and the boyfriend telling the story says, no, it wasn’t.   Timmy ate all the candy he could find inside his parents, but What? He wanted more. Now, every Halloween, every single Halloween since, his evil spirit comes back trick or treating. If you don’t share your candy with him, he will come and take it. All of it. Even the candy you’ve already eaten.   Of course, this freaks little Mikey out, and he runs up to his room, and out of fear, puts a candy bar down in front of his door. And the candy bar is a carpenter bar, obvious Todd to John Carpenter here. And then we cut back down to the babysitter and, the boyfriend, and the babysitter kind of gives the boyfriend a little bit of gruff saying, you know, maybe you went a little too far. You scared him. And the boyfriend says, ah, not. It’s a rite of passage. We all heard that story when we were kids. And they tease one another and they start eating, little Mikey’s Halloween candy.   Mikey hears something outside of his room, and when he looks out the window, he hears a ghostly trick or treat, and so he knows something’s going on. Meanwhile downstairs, the boyfriend and the, babysitter are lamenting the fact that they have eaten all the candy and now they’re feeling sick. The girlfriend goes to get them something to drink, and that is when sweet tooth arrives. And we’ve got the, we don’t get a much look at him, but what we get is pretty nightmarish, and he takes his hand, reaches down into the boyfriend’s gullet, and starts ripping out his, insides. When the babysitter comes back in, she finds the boyfriend dead, she screams and starts to run towards, Mikey’s room, but we see Sweet Tooth follow her as well, and then we assume that she has met her demise. Mikey is hiding under his bed, he hears something outside of his door, the door slowly opens, and in comes this monstrous hand, but it just grabs the candy bar. Apparently that was enough of a sacrifice, and so, Sweet Tooth presumably leaves him alone. A few minutes later, the boy’s parents come home, but they walk into the living room to find little Mikey standing in front of the boyfriend or the boyfriend and the babysitter eviscerated, and all he says is, They ate all of my candy.   And so it’s a nice little cap there where it seems like everybody’s going to assume that this kid was the one who actually did all of this. And the whole thing, plays out really dark and pretty frightening, good effects, and I thought it was just an excellent way to start this out. What did you think of this one? 

Todd:  Yeah. I think anytime, you know, with an anthology series like this, you wanna start and end with you some of your strongest stories, and this probably is one of the stronger stories in my opinion. I have to be honest, I don’t think that any of the stories are really, really wonderful. But as you said earlier, as far as consistency goes, they’re all pretty good. And so Av, this is maybe the goodest one of the goodest of the group, I would say. And and it’s, you know, it’s it’s it’s like most of the stories where they’re more based on urban legends. This is obviously not I think this is a pretty original kind of legend, but it is, it does fall into that category of urban legend. And that’s how I felt the whole film went, was it took these really, really short, very small stories, But, the stories definitely have that urban legend kind of feel to them.   So, yeah, I thought it was pretty solid and you’re right, the gore effects were good. It was pretty spooky, and it definitely set the tone for the rest of the movie. 

Craig:  Yeah. I thought it was pretty scary Todd. You know, what you just said, the fact that some of these seem like semi typical urban legends, that’s a lot of the criticism that I read online. This the whole movie has a, I think, like a 70 4, 75 percent, or no, 79% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which I agree with. I think it’s pretty solid. But if you go through and read message boards, people are pretty critical of it, and I didn’t really understand why because I thought, that it was fun. I agree with you that this one was one of my favorites, but the next one, I thought was just so much fun. I’ll let you tell them about, number 2. 

Todd:  Yeah. The next one was pretty interesting. It’s you know, actually, it’s called The Night Billy Raised Hell, and it’s really about a young boy who’s at trick or treating with what must be his sister and her boyfriend. 

Craig:  Billy, I am an idiot. I totally forgot to ask. Did your mother dress up this year? What? Is your mother in a slutty costume like your sister? Hey. What? You remember your mom brought you to school in that Catwoman outfit 1 year? We still talk about it. Touch up. 

Todd:  And, they are encouraging him to egg this old man’s house because he never gives out candy, and he’s really stingy. And they claim it’s a Halloween tradition to egg this guy’s house. He’s really a nice kid, so he’s reluctant to do it. But, they convince him anyway. He goes up to the steps. You know, you’re supposed to do this from far away. They should have at least told him that, but he goes right up to the steps like he’s just gonna smash it against the window or something. And the door opens and this man, pops out and grabs the kid and takes him inside.   And the man looks like, I don’t know, he’s kind of has a somewhat bony looking face and instantly, for me anyway, gave off this Jim Carrey type vibe. 

Craig:  You are going to learn 

Todd:  what a real Halloween 

Craig:  in his 

Clip:  by the way, Billy, is your mother dressing up again this year? 

Todd:  Later, I was really surprised to hear that this role was played by Barry Bostwick, who is Brad from Rocky Horror. And, you know, everybody in this movie, I don’t know if there’s a single actor in this movie who has not been in some horror film somewhere along the line, if not really well known for it. That was another really interesting touch. I think, if you wanted to play like 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon, like, this is the movie that you need that’s gonna connect all of these, all of the horror films that you know, and a bunch that you don’t know. 

Craig:  Yeah. 

Todd:  Yeah. Anyway, he pulls the kid in and, and he’s really playing with him. And again, like I said, he just has kind of a Jim Carrey esque type vibe to it, and he says, you want to do a prank? I’ll show you a prank. And so they go out, him with this masked kid, and run around and do all kinds of mayhem. And it’s, it’s not innocent Halloween mayhem, it’s the kind of Halloween mayhem that gets people injured or killed. Yeah. So it’s just this long running list of things and you’re going, oh my gosh, this is so horrible. And it’s interesting how he has suddenly convinced this kid who couldn’t even egg his house, to go out and do these terrible things with him.   Well, you can see little horns on this guy’s head, and you see them pretty early on, and so you figure this guy is a devil or he’s kind of a devilish trickster figure, and, when he comes, when they come back after this night of mayhem, which has made the news and everything, They’ve even tagged a neighbor’s garage with his name, so there’s no way this kid is getting out of this. When he comes home, you see that it hasn’t been the kid this whole time. The kid’s actually been tied up to a Craig, and this was one of the devil’s minions who takes off his devil mask that the kid was wearing and, takes off the devil mask and he looks like a devil himself underneath. And so, yeah, it was it was one of those interesting twist endings. A lot of these do have that twist ending. It’s very reminiscent of like an EC horror comic, Tales from the Crypt or Vault of Horror or something, where the bad guy gets his due at the end. Yeah. I thought this took an interesting turn from the pure almost real just pure horror that we had from the first one.   And immediately 180 into still horrible, but pretty much comedy. 

Craig:  Yeah. I I totally agree. I I loved this one, and I thought that there are several that employ comedy, and I don’t have any problem with that. Again, that’s something that people are kind of critical of online, but I like comedy, and you know, Stephen King says that horror and comedy are conjoined twins. They go right along with one another and I couldn’t agree more. But the comedy here and the comedy elsewhere, I think that it’s so effective because it’s so dark. Like it’s really, really dark comedy. You’ve got this little kid doing these outrageous things that, like you said, is completely out of character for him, and of course, as it turns out, it’s not really him doing it, they’re just setting him up to take the fall for it.   But, I just thought that it worked so well, and Barry Bostwick just seems to take so much joy in playing this impish, devilish role. There’s a hilarious cameo from Adrienne Curry, who is from America’s Next Top Model originally, but is a staple at Comic Con and is a huge Halloween fan herself, and that I thought was really funny. Overall, that one was one of my favorites, and that seems to kind of be a consensus, across the board at least based on the fan, message boards that I was reading. I liked it a lot. The third one is titled Trick, directed by Adam Girosh, I think maybe? And this one starts out simply enough with, 2 couples, middle aged couples, I would guess probably about our age, you know, mid late thirties probably. And they’re just sitting around watching, Night of the Living Dead. They’ve got their house all decked out with all the Halloween stuff. They’re drinking wine.   One of them is smoking a bong. It just looks, you know, and they’re drinking and laughing and having a good time. And, some trick or treaters come, and first the wife, one of the wives, I guess supposedly who lives in the house, goes to the door and hands out some candy. And then the next time the doorbell rings, she says, Okay, honey, it’s your turn. And the husband goes, and there’s this little girl standing there, dressed as a witch, very innocent looking. Trick treat.   Nelson, you’re drunk. She’s supposed to say that.   Stummy. And she whips out a big butcher knife from under her costume and says, Trick, and stabs him multiple times, in the abdomen. He closes the door and everybody kind of says, What’s wrong? Because they haven’t seen what’s happened, but he turns around and he’s bleeding and he collapses, and of course, as you would, they all start to panic. Somebody says, I think the wife says, Call 911, and the other woman, says, Are you crazy? I’ll go around back and get the car. So she goes out to get the car, but she’s besieged by another group of kids who hack her to pieces. Her husband sees this, but is then quickly attacked by some, but another kid who has gotten in the house, and that’s a pretty gruesome kill. All of these done with practical effects that I thought worked really well, and so we’re left with this last woman who goes off running, and she ends up in this garage, and we start to see some flashes of some really bizarre and violent imagery. And I think I’m not gonna quite spoil this one all the way, except for to say that these couples were not as innocent as they initially appeared to be, and that there’s probably reason and motivation for what these kids are doing.   But it was so much fun and it was so unexpected. I didn’t see it coming at all. I kinda wanna leave that one for you, listeners out there, if you haven’t seen the movie for it to kinda be a surprise. This one was one of the shorter ones, but I thought, I mean I enjoyed it. I think I’m gonna end up saying that for most of them. I think there was only 1 or 2 that I thought were just alright, but I I like this one. What about you? 

Todd:  Yeah. It was, it was weird. I thought it was kinda weird. I’m not sure I completely got, the motivation there, that you’re that that we’re not going to spoil for you, because Well, you 

Craig:  can if you want to. I was just trying to say 

Todd:  Well, no. No. I think that’s fine. I think that’s fine because it happens in flashes and things, and I think what made it creepy for me was I was a little unsure, and I think that’s okay. I’d rather be a little unsure. I thought that of all the stories, this one was maybe the most obtuse. I this one was maybe my least favorite, actually, just because it was rather simple and straightforward, except for that that bit where I wasn’t quite sure what they had done, but I could see that it was horrible, and so it left that sort of lingering feeling in my head that I thought kind of made up for the fact that otherwise it’s just these kids killing these people. So, yeah.   Yeah. I mean, it wasn’t my favorite of the group. Maybe I’d put it down at the very bottom, but one thing that you mentioned earlier that I think really carries through this and all the rest of them is just the consistency. I mean, to have all of these tales directed by different directors and written by different people, even down to the cinematography, the lighting choices and everything, it is so consistent. The whole movie seems like it’s directed by the same person, except for obviously the differences in tone between each of the stories, which you get anyway in an anthology series, at least you tend to. It’s so amazing how seamless, the movie feels. 

Craig:  Yeah. I think it feels, really seamless Todd, but I also liked, and I thought that this was a good example where there are little bits where you can see the director’s individual style. And up until the twist at the end of this one, it really just kind of felt like The Purge, but with kids, you know, like you didn’t know what was going on. The twist kind of put in a unique spin on it, so it didn’t just seem like a rip off. But the way that the cinematography worked, you kind of alluded to the fact that you’re getting things in flashes, and you’re not getting the complete picture. I thought that, you know, that’s something that’s unique to this one, and you get little, I don’t know, glimpses into the style of these various directors while it’s still consistent and still feels like a cohesive piece. I thought that was, something strong. 

Todd:  Yeah. It was. It was. Yeah. The next story takes us, a little bit out of, it’s one of the few actually that take us out of the suburban neighborhood and into what looks like more of an urban area, even though it could just be the the downtown of this, I guess, this small town, where, there’s an alley and there’s you hear the sounds of of and at first you think, oh my gosh, somebody’s eating something or somebody, but it’s just the sound of eating candy. Somebody’s just glorging on candy in the alley, and I guess it’s just the way that they really Todd this together with Halloween. And, you know, it seems like Todd, every time anybody eats candy in this movie, they do make it sound like like it’s they’re the sloppiest ears in the world. Like, bite into a chocolate bar, and it sounds like like they’re chopping into an apple.   It’s funny. So anyway, yeah, this guy’s eating this candy, and, somebody comes up from behind them and starts harassing him. And it turns out to be this gang, this very small gang of this girl and and I think 2 guys. 

Craig:  Mhmm. 

Todd:  And they’re punked out. She’s got tattoos and all over and they’re sort of your stereotypical bad bad alley gang. Yeah. He’s gonna burn his feet with a cigar and they get interrupted, and from behind, what looks like this towering demon with big horns comes up. But as he steps into the light, it’s it’s clearly just a guy dressed up who apparently wants to just be a superhero, and, and he hands her this this piece of paper, and there’s a photo, kind of a blurry photo on the piece of paper, this demon that he’s supposed to be dressed up as, and the whole story is called The Weak and the Wicked. So, that is what’s what’s going on here. You’ve got the wicked people and the weak, victims. 

Craig:  It spills the blood of the wicked where the wicked have harmed the weak. Think you turned yourself into a monster with that soup boy. 

Todd:  And so they take off after him and he runs. So he gets, is on foot, and these 3 are not like, I thought they were gonna jump on a motorcycle or something, but they end up on bikes. So they’re like a bicycle gang. And, and but but, you know, it’s still the chase sequence is pretty intense, and it takes them through a park, and it takes them all over the place. Really quick cut, really nice little cinematography on this chase sequence. A really good example of how you can do a chase sequence on bicycles, with a guy running and still make it exciting and, do it on a lower budget, was was pretty good. Anyway, they end up, he ends up leading him to this alley where he faces a burned out looking trailer, and it’s a small trailer. I guess it’s supposed to be kind of a trailer home, but it would be something that you would definitely tow behind your car and and not the kind of trailer home people would normally go in.   And there’s a very quick, and very substantive flashback sequence where you immediately understand that this was the kids’ parents who got burned up in this trailer home, and you can see in the flashback that there are these 3 people who, even as children, were part of this, were in a gag and were terrorizing people in absolutely horrible ways, enough that they gleefully torched, this kid’s home and burned up his parents in them. So when they come and confront him there, she says, oh, look, you’re little Jimmy Henson. Okay, Jim Henson. And, and so, right, Not not not what I was expecting to have name dropped in this movie, but okay. And, anyway, so they are going to, basically do what Todd him, what they did to his parents years ago, and kick him, punch him quite a bit, he falls down, and then she douses him with alcohol. And before as she’s about to light him on fire, there’s a noise from behind them, and behind them is very much the same shadowy figure that he was dressed up as, but it turns out it is actually the demon, and he opens his big mouth like he’s going to kill them, and that’s the end of the story. So, as we see the back of this sheet of paper, it looks, I don’t know, it looks like something out of a comic book or something that’s advertising, maybe a way to summon a demon of the night, or maybe it’s a picture out of a spell book or something. It’s a little unclear, but, of course, the idea is that this kid summoned this demon to take revenge, and his whole plot all along was to lead them back to the scene of the crime to give them their comeuppance.   Again, very standard tales from the Craig desk, Craig show type of feel to it. 

Craig:  It definitely was, but I feel like and and this is common of those types of stories is that they usually have some sort of twist at the end. You could tell all throughout this that this kid was being very intentional on what he was doing. He had a watch that he kept looking at, like, he was trying to lead them to this particular place at the particular time. And then when, when they got there and the flashback happened, he took the mask off, and you see that he had something carved into his face. And I think there’s a little, voice over or maybe you just see this written on the piece of paper, but it says something like, when the word is carved in flesh, the invitation is sent. So at that point, you know, you kinda figure out that this kid has summoned this vengeance demon, And when it appears, again, they they don’t they don’t pull any punches on the effects. I mean, it Todd definitely looks like something that was kind of pieced together. And I mean, it’s clearly a costume, but it really seems like they took care with care with it, and I appreciated that.   And, you know, everybody loves a good revenge story, where the bad guys get what’s coming to them. This one, it wasn’t one of my favorites. But the next one, number 5 was called Grim Grinning Ghost, and it was, directed by Axel Carolyn. And the first thing, they had me on board with this one right away because it opens with Lin Shay, who I just absolutely adore. I just think that she is Your favorite. Fantastic. She’s she’s just so great. I mean, in everything she does.   And it’s not even like she has some sort of amazing range. You know? Like, she always kinda plays the same sort of characters, and I don’t care. I just love her. 

Todd:  You know, I’m actually kinda surprised that you love her so much because I don’t really find her a very good actress or or or even very compelling. I mean, I’ve I I think almost in every performance, she just, again, she seems to be the same character, and I don’t know. There’s just something about her style that Todd me screams I’m acting. I don’t know that 

Craig:  I I understand what no. I understand what you’re saying exactly. There’s just something about her presence. I think it’s because she’s got kind of an 8 typical look. She’s small. She’s not, you know, stereotypically movie star looking. She looks like a real woman. She’s got an interesting voice.   And you’re right. You’re right. She does always kinda play the same role, but I don’t care. Anytime she pops up, it’s just I get a huge smile on my face. She is apparently hosting this, Halloween party for adults and it seems pretty low key, but they’re all sitting around in costumes and they’re telling ghost stories. And Lynne Shea tells this story about, Mary Bailey who was laughed at her whole life because she had a disfigured face.   She comes back every Halloween to taunt the living and to laugh at them behind their backs. So just a word of warning tonight if you find yourself alone on the way back, and you hear an evil cackle and footsteps behind you. I wouldn’t turn around because if she finds you looking when you least expect Todd, She’s gonna take your eyes.   Then the party breaks up and everybody’s going home. And, Lin Shay sends her daughter off. You know, it seems like they have a warm relationship. And, the daughter’s driving home, and there’s a song playing on the radio that says, you you know, something like just turn around now. I’m always behind you. You know, it’s very suggestive. It it it almost feels I kind of thought that we were gonna get into that territory of somebody in the back seat. That’s what I was expecting.   But instead of that, somebody runs out in front of her car, and she slams on the brakes, which causes some sort of mechanical malfunction. I don’t know why. But the car breaks down, so she has to and and as she’s looking under the hood to see if she can see what’s wrong, when she closes the hood again, she closes it on her phone and breaks it. So she’s stranded and just has to walk home. As she’s walking home, she’s scared by a couple of things that she sees that just end up being, you know, decorations or or cats or something like that. But as she’s headed down her street, she’s kinda walking down the middle of the street, and behind her is the mist and the, the street lights illuminating the mist and she hears, some laughter behind her. And she’s spooked and she tells herself not to turn around and we can see behind her a figure emerging out of the mist. And it gets closer and closer to her as she gets home and the tension is building and of course, you know, she drops her keys trying to get into the house.   She finally gets the door open, and, at the very last minute before she steps in, she looks back, but she sees nobody there. So she starts to get ready. Her dog gives her another jump stare. But then she just sits down to watch some scary movies at the end of the night, and, her dog who is sitting next to her on the couch gets spooked and runs into the other room, and she looks after him. And when she looks back and when she sits back in her chair, we see a ghostly woman, gross looking figure sitting next to her on the couch, and it cuts to black and there’s a screen. I thought this was okay for what it was. Again, it was, one of the shorter ones, and, it, it Todd did play out very much like your standard urban legend. But I don’t know.   I just don’t have a problem with that. You know? I I it was it was spooky. It was fun. I I’m not looking for I don’t know. I’m not looking for great depth in this type of movie. You know, they’ve got 10 minutes approximately each of them, to set up a story, you know, establish some characters and give us some fun and some scares. And I thought that they all did that. Some, you know, with greater success than others, and I feel like this one was perhaps maybe not one of the most successful ones, but but fine nonetheless.   I I didn’t really have a problem with it. What did you think? 

Todd:  I’m with you on the whole. I I don’t see it as a criticism that this that this movie is based on urban legends and that most of them at least have that feel, if not are outright. Like, this one is outright an urban legend. I’ve heard it a dozen times before in different forms. And in fact, this kind of story exists across multiple cultures. A lot of cultures have a ghost story where there’s a ghost behind you or some spirit behind you, but you can’t look at it. And if you do look at it, something terrible is going to happen. But again, I don’t have a problem with it either.   I mean, that is the spirit of these kind of stories. It’s the spirit of this kind of movie, I think. And so no, it doesn’t bother me in the slightest that they’re urban legend y. They just need Todd, again, have their own little spin on them. And maybe you’re right, this one is a little weaker in that it it plays it pretty straightforward and doesn’t put too big of a spin on it. But I thought it was actually one of the freakiest ones because, the the appearance of the witch is just very skillfully done, and she just flashes there for just a couple seconds before black comes in. And I don’t know, it really creeped me out. The whole idea would creep anyone out too.   And of course, the witch is Barbara Crampton, which I, you know, I didn’t recognize, of course, but I looked up later. And Barbara Crampton, we’ve talked about her before. She was in We Are Still Here and goes all the way back to shopping mall. And it’s like I’ve said before, all roads seem to lead back to shopping mall for us. 

Craig:  Yeah. It’s so funny. I didn’t know that. 

Todd:  Yeah. It’s nuts. Again, like I said, if you go through anyone who’s interested could probably spend 2 hours going through the IMDB credits because there are a ton of them because there are a ton of characters in this movie. But every single one of them, it’s like they they put out this APB that says, we’re gonna get this, we’re gonna do this movie, and, anybody who’s anybody who’s ever been involved in a horror film, is welcome to come on board. And everyone just jumped in and said, yeah, let’s do it. That in itself is a pretty amazing, amazing, accomplishment, I think. And, Axel Carolyn, who or Excel, I don’t know how you how you pronounce it. I don’t know.   Who directed this one seems to have put the whole movie together. She wrote quite a few of them and, is pretty much credited, I think, with, with kind of being the brains behind this film. And I’d never heard of her before, And I got online, I looked, and she has a few other credits to her name, but she looks like my soul mate because, it looks like she was born exactly 1 year later than I was. So I feel like we must have some connection there. Oh, she was also born in in Belgium, which is where I was born. So there’s something going on. Really? Yeah. Something going on between me and this Axel Carolyn.   I’m very happy. 

Craig:  That’s funny. Well, that leads us up to number 6, which is the one that I can’t say necessarily that I didn’t like it, but I don’t I just didn’t know really what to think of this one. So I’ll let you I’ll let you lay it out there, then we could talk about it. 

Todd:  Oh, wow. You know what? This was my favorite of the bunch. No kidding. Maybe this is the only one that breaks that rule of consistency now that I think about it, because it’s very it’s not straightforward at all, and it’s a little strange. And I’m I’m really not even gonna talk too much about it. I’m just gonna say that, Jack and Bobby’s house first of all, you get subtitles with Jack and Bobby’s house last year at Halloween. It’s the first movie that actually starts out with a flashback and bothers to tell us in subtitles, that it was last Halloween. And it’s basically this couple, this kind of mousy guy, and quite mousy quiet guy, and this woman who is just wailing out the window at the trick or treaters. 

Craig:  Look at all those children out there. It’s not fair. I know, honey. 

Todd:  But look, 

Craig:  trick or treat. What are you doing, Jack? I don’t know. I thought dressing our dog up like Rapunzel would would make me forget that we don’t have a child. Gretel. But she’s supposed to be Gretel. You know? Like Hansel and Gretel. You’re mad. 

Todd:  She she lunges out at him at the end of this little bit, and her nails are long, and she’s got these long arms, and it just really takes you off guard. And you think, okay, something is definitely not right with this woman, or is this just a stylized representation of her maybe from his dream or his memory or something, it definitely starts to enter into kind of dreamy territory. Flash back to the current day, and they are handing out candy to trick or treaters, and, there’s an oven that that kind of pops in as imagery. She’s, oh, she’s making cookies that are shaped like kids. It’s all meant to evoke without actually saying and without flat out copying a kind of Hansel and Gretel story. Maybe that’s as far as I’m gonna go. And so you get the impression and the notion that this woman is a witch, and you get it in very bizarre ways. They’re they’re taking her to the inside of the oven.   They’re flashing over as she’s making the cookies, and the cookies are shaped like children, so there’s of course that idea of eating children there. And, you figure it out pretty quickly, but you figure it out on kind of a visceral level. It’s not like a direct flat out story told to you, I think. And again, the more and more we see of this woman, the more and more strange she is. At one point, it’s clear she has a third arm that that comes out and slaps him. At what I mean, there’s a little bit of comedy mixed in here with this just bizarre dreamlike kind of horror. And the ending was very weird, and I thought that just the feel of this story alone made it pretty terrifying. I thought it was the the one that reached me at the deepest level, just because, and again, I think it’s one of these cases where it wasn’t very straightforward, clear cut.   You couldn’t really follow it as a story that takes you from point a to point b. It just left me with this impression of this woman that was a pretty terrifying version of a witch that that could be in a neighborhood and could on one hand seem really, really normal, but then turn very bizarre, very quickly. 

Craig:  Yeah. This one, I I think that it stands out so much because it’s it’s so different. I mean, I don’t think that it feels out of place in the movie. It still feels in place, but but you really get a sense of the director Lucky McKee’s style. Now Lucky McKee has directed, several horror movies, and I think that he’s really good at what he does, but this guy seems like he’s messed up. Like like, the the movies the movies that he makes are are just really kinda, oh, man, they’re kinda messed up. Like, May, which I’ve been trying to get you to watch with me for a while. We’ll have to do that pretty soon.   The Woman, which is another, you know, dark really, really dark movie. And and this, while there is you know, there’s a Hansel and Gretel element, but it it just visually, it’s so bizarre. Like, it’s just it’s kinda bizarre to watch, but intriguing, as well. I think that I was just kinda left not knowing what to think of that one, and I I don’t think that’s a bad thing. It definitely stood out, from the others, and and, maybe that’s maybe that’s a compliment, I guess. 

Todd:  Yeah. And, again, it’s a little ambiguous because, the idea, I think, is that he’s he kind of the husband finally, I guess, is gonna try to put a stop to her, but I’m not sure he’s successful. It really just leaves you hanging there. And maybe it also goes against the grain with the others in that it’s it’s that most of these kind of stories that are in the EC horror vein, the bad person gets what’s coming to them, and in this case, it doesn’t really necessarily happen, which is fine. But yeah, it is a little it’s inconsistent in so many ways from the rest of the story. And, you know, one of the parents in this in this, in this bit was Angela from Sleepaway Camp. 

Craig:  Oh, really? I didn’t. Gosh. You let you clearly did more research than I did. 

Todd:  I’ve been I’m only touching on a few of them. It’s just nuts. I mean, Angela from sleepaway camp. I always kinda wonder what happened to her. She’s been doing stuff. 

Craig:  That’s funny. Alright. Well, that leads us to number 7, which is this means war. And I actually really liked this one, but it’s really easy to describe. All this is about is about a battle between neighbors for who can have the best Halloween display. You’ve got an older guy on one side who sets up a more traditional display. Great, excellent front yard display. And then on the other side, you’ve got this younger Hispanic couple, who seems to maybe be a little bit more rough, a little bit more edgy.   And and they hire, professionals to come in and dress up their yard. And their yard is, still conventional as far as Halloween, but it’s more modern. And the on Halloween night, you know, they’re they’re both trying to do their displays, but, the the younger couple have loud music conflict between conflict between different eras of horror. Whereas you’ve got, like, the old school films with the classic monsters like Frankenstein and the Wolfman and all and, you know, like, spooky graveyards and skeletons and that type of thing. And then you’ve got, on the other hand, the more modern elements of, like, dismembered bodies and gore and and those types of effects. And I’m the kind of horror fan who, enjoys both, of of those types. But you will find horror fans that that fall wholeheartedly on one side or the other. And I kinda liked that metaphor of the conflict between the 2.   And it played out really simply and really quick, and it was just it it was a fun one. I liked this one. 

Todd:  You know, as a metaphor, it’s making a very clear statement because the, new the new guys, if you will, are very chill and very cool and very accommodating, whereas it’s the old guy who seems to be getting, in such a, you know, seems to be getting so upset and so aggressive at first. So, yeah, that’s I mean, the metaphor is clear. It’s pretty night and day, and, it’s interesting that the side that they that they decided to take again, I’m like you. I like both of them. This one, I thought was had so much potential, for being, more than it ended up being. That’s all I’ll say about it. I thought it could have gone in some really cool directions. I thought the concept was really interesting.   I was a little let down, by the ending. But it did have one of my absolute favorite lines for the whole film, which is when the the the punk guy or whatever goes over to the old man’s house. 

Craig:  Do you know what would perk up this candy ass display? Some mother blood. 

Todd:  And he’s got a buck, and he just tosses blood all over everything. I’m sorry. That made me smile. But, anyway, yeah. No. It was good. It was good. The ending. 

Craig:  I and I think that where you think that there was a lot more potential, I actually appreciated how simple they kept it. It was it was I don’t know. I feel like if if they’d and I don’t know. I’m sure you’ve got ideas as to where they could have gone with it. I think that, it was nice in its simplicity, and and, I I actually kind of appreciated that they didn’t try to draw it out into more. But, enjoyable nonetheless. This next one, oh Todd, I’m so glad that you’re talking about this one because I I so badly wanna know what you 

Todd:  thought of this one. Oh, this is the one you didn’t like too much, I’ll bet. Is that right? 

Craig:  No. I’m not gonna say that. 

Todd:  Oh, okay. Okay. Alright. This one is so nuts. This is the craziest one. I mean, it just goes all over the place. There’s a girl being chased by a guy. It’s a very definite Texas chainsaw massacre thing.   You get some flashbacks into previous victims, and and and then when he finally corners her Wolf Creek style in a in a big, kind of his his shed, if you will. And it and you know, this is maybe one I’m not sure. I guess it took it was supposed to take place in this town, but it was kind of all over the map They’re coming out of the woods, but there’s a shed, and so it must be a fairly secluded place. And, anyway, he corners her in there and she knocks off his mask and he’s, he’s got, he’s totally deformed. I mean, he’s one of these, like I said, it’s very Texas Chainsaw Massacre. He’s a completely deformed kind of brute, if you will, probably inbred, and, chases her back outside and suddenly, a big light shines down on him, and it’s a UFO that is overhead. So now we’re getting into sci fi territory, which is totally appropriate for Halloween, and it beams down this tiny little creature, this cute little guy that go that looks up, and he’s he’s holding you gotta just see this alien. I’ll probably put a picture on our website, because he’s so darn cute. 

Craig:  It’s so 

Todd:  cute. He’s like 2 inches tall, and he holds up this tiny little, pumpkin trick or treat 

Craig:  I got all of you. 

Todd:  He kinda looks at him. So I guess the idea is that this little alien was beamed out to take advantage of the Halloween season and to experience it, but, the thing doesn’t know what to make of it, and so he just stomps on it and just smashes it into goo, and this goo then possesses the girl. And then again, it like it just borrows from so much. Now we’ve got what I thought was immediately evil dead. This girl looks like Ash from Evil Dead 2 when he gets possessed and then depossessed and then possessed again, with her glowing eyes and with the kind of a skeletal looking face that comes through the flesh. And so she starts chasing after him, and what we get is this this giant battle sequence between the 2 that is hilariously comical because, they end up just lopping limbs off of each other until they’re both reduced to nothing. But of course, the the little Martian can, can leave the body again and go back up into the spaceship afterwards. What a goofball type deal that was really just nothing more than an excuse to see 2 big 2 creatures battle it out and just, incredibly over the top gore.   It was it was funny, you know, supposed to be funny. I didn’t feel alright. So it was original in the sense that I’d never seen anything quite like it, but was it really an original idea? I don’t know. It seemed like like something maybe a 13 year old would have come up with. Wouldn’t it be cool if this and, put it together with a big budget and made it happen? It was goofball. I thought as, you know, with with these anthologies or story movies, you do want a bit of variety. You wanna bounce between something horrific and something a little comical, at least I do. I’d like to see that kind of variety.   This was maybe the most goofball straight out comedy of all of them, but again keeps that horror vibe because, of the subject matter. 

Craig:  I absolutely loved this one. It was it was ding dong, the one that was your favorite. That was the one that I was skeptical about. This one, I absolutely loved. And I we haven’t even said. It was called Friday 31st directed by Mike Mendez. And and and you kept saying it’s like Texas Chainsaw Massacre. No.   It’s not. It’s exactly Friday 13th. I mean, the guy looks exactly like Jason Voorhees. He’s not wearing a a hockey mask   Yes.   But it’s a mask. It’s a wooden mask that looks just like a hockey mask.   You’re right.   And the first part the first part is classic Friday the 13th where he’s just chasing down this big boob girl, and he finally gets her in the lair. And in the lair, there’s, what clearly looks like missus Voorhees head on on one of the tables, and and other victims and stuff in there. And then, when the the little alien thing I just thought was absolutely freaking adorable and so funny in the context of this. And then when the little alien possessed the the girl, it went totally, Evil Dead. I mean, she looked she couldn’t have looked more like a deadite, and so it was, let’s have Jason fight a deadite, and and they went at it. And if if you look closely, the Necronomicon is on one of the shelves in his, lair. I just thought this one was freaking hilarious, and I was laughing out loud the whole time. The look on not Jason’s face when confronted with this little alien, like, he’s just so so confused.   And then when the the the when the possessed thing starts chasing him, like he squeals like a little girl and runs away, and you have this total reversal where first it was him chasing the girl, now it’s the girl chasing him. Oh my Todd. I just thought it was, I was just gut laughing, at this one. Absolutely loved it. And I agree with you a 100%. I wanna see some variety. I wanna see some more straightforward hard hitting horror ones. I wanna see a little bit of comedy, where it’s appropriate.   And I I just thought this, I loved it. Absolutely loved it. 

Todd:  You noticed a lot more details in this one than I did, definitely. 

Craig:  Oh, gosh. I I think it’s just because I was enjoying it so much, and we’ve talked about this before. I enjoy that franchise more than you do.   Yes.   So maybe that’s why, I had an affinity for this one. 

Todd:  Well, you know, I I just felt like at the beginning, he he was unclear to kinda see him. You’re absolutely right. And I even thought that about halfway through. I was like, oh, yeah, he’s also like Jason. But, you know, chasing him through the woods into kind of a layer, to me, the layer itself reminded me a lot because they were like bones everywhere and it was, it was very industrial looking. It reminded me a lot of the house, in, in, Texas Chainsaw Massacre. 

Craig:  Oh, yeah. 

Todd:  You know, with with that, it evoked a little bit of that imagery, but you’re absolutely right. It’s a total carbon. Now that I think about it, now that you describe it, it’s definitely Jason versus the deadites. But man Oh, Todd. All over the place. 

Craig:  And and what a funny concept that is. So funny. I don’t know. I don’t know. We’re we’re getting what? 

Todd:  It’s too easy. You know what I mean? It’s like Todd that’s that’s what I’m saying. Like, alright. You know, what if we put Jason up against a deadite and and then we’ll make that one of the stories like, I, you know, without the without the little Martian in there, which totally throws it into crazy bizarre territory, you know, they could be sued for copyright infringement. 

Craig:  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Now I get what you’re saying with it’s too easy. I guess for me, it it works as fan service. You know, I wanna see that.   That’s and you’re right. It’s the 13 year old boy in me, you know, who loves those movies and would love to see that kind of crossover. And I don’t think that it would work in any sort of reality if we were talking about a feature film. But in this short, where they can just kinda have fun with it, I don’t know. I thought it worked. I get your criticism. I understand what you’re saying. I just I totally disagree.   I I loved it. I loved it. The next one I liked too. It was it was funny and and cute. It was called, The Ransom of Rusty Rex, directed by Ryan Shifrin. And what happens here is these 2 guys who usually, are bank robbers have decided that they’re gonna kidnap this kid on Halloween night, which makes perfect sense if you’re a kidnapper. Parents are sending their kids out by themselves or at least some are. And this guy, I guess, is the big rich guy in town.   They’re gonna kidnap his son and demand a ransom. So they do. The the little kid is dressed up as a devil, I think. No, he’s not. He’s some other kind of costume. He’s he’s just got like some kind of paper mask on. But they kidnap him. They take him to this little warehouse, and they call his dad. 

Clip:  Hey, listen to me very carefully, mister Rex. We have your son. If you ever wanna see him alive again, you’re gonna do exactly, as I say.   You have Rusty?   That’s right. For 5,000,000 Benjamins, you get your precious Rusty back.   You’ve made a terrible mistake.   You’re in no position to make threats, mister x.   You poor bastard. You have no idea what you’ve done. No.   I think I have what the hell of? What the did he just hang up 

Craig:  with me?   He calls him back, and he’s like, well, he’s your problem now. And meanwhile, I think they either take them the kid has been tied up on a a Craig, but after one of these phone calls, they look over and he is busted out of the chair. And when they locate him, he’s taken off his mask, and he’s this little demon, this like rat looking goblin or or something. And and I’m pretty sure that this character is played by Ben Wolf, and I think that, he also played the night Billy raised hell, I think that he played the little demon Billy too. Ben Wolfe is this little person, who, I think got his first, break in American Horror Story. In the first season of American Horror Story, he played the infantata, which is one of the scariest, parts of that season and then he was also in freak show. Sadly, he was killed in an auto accident. He was hit by a car and killed.   And it’s too bad because he was really kind of making a name for himself in the industry and and the movie is is, dedicated to his memory at the end. But basically what happens is they call the dad and say, you have to take him back. And the dad says, heck no. He showed up at our house 10 years ago, trick or treating, and he stayed with us ever since. We couldn’t get rid of him. He’s your problem now. So they take the kid and try to drop him off, at the front door. I I think they even well, and then that doesn’t work.   He shows back up. They tie him up in in chains and throw him into a swamp, and then they they get the heck out of Dodge, and they stop at this gas station, and one of them goes in for food. And when he comes back out, the other guy is missing, and he looks in the back seat, and there is the little demon kid eating, the other guy. And that’s just kinda where it ends. I just thought this one was such a clever, funny premise, and this one was unlike anything that I had seen before. And, just, you know, this little demon, he’s definitely scary, but there is also almost something a little bit cute and funny about him too.   Yeah.   And again, it was just one of those things like those comics that you talked about where the bad guys end up somehow ironically getting what they have coming to them. And and I thought I really liked this one. 

Todd:  Yeah. It was pitch perfect at that. It was like a ruthless people turned into a horror movie. Yeah. And, and a lot of the interesting name dropping Todd. One of the first things I noticed when I fired up this movie and we were going through the credit sequence was that the main title was direct was, composed by Lalo Shifrin, and I and I love, he’s iconic, you you know a lot of his stuff, probably most famous for the Mission Impossible theme song, but he always does these great jazzy type, intense type scores, and he’s just one of my favorite, composers for film. And then I saw that one of the one of the sit segments was was directed by a Ryan Shifrin, and I’m like, well, Shifrin is not a common last name, so that can’t be an accident. And sure enough, it turns out Ryan Shifrin is his son.   So this was directed by Lalo Shifrin’s son. A little bit of a trivia there for you. And then, of course, the dad that they call is John Landis, who did American Werewolf in London, directed Michael Jackson’s thriller, went on to you know, he’s just a big blockbuster director. One of the bigger, I guess, names that they got in this in this movie, I thought. You need to see him, have a cameo as well. Yeah. I’m with you. I I thought that it was a nice, solid little sequence.   It was funny, and, it it it was satisfying, yeah, at the end. 

Craig:  I I I agree, and I and I thought that it was good. You know, we’re we’re leading up to the end now, which is good because we’re getting long on time. But again, this last one, there are so many different, homages and things. You know, we’ve talked about, Friday 13th and Evil Dead and and just all over the place there are these little homages. And this last one was kind of a nice surprise for me because I felt like it was totally an homage to a movie that we just talked about. Right? 

Todd:  Yes. It’s very much an homage to Halloween 3 in many ways. It has the same pumpkin imagery, and it has it’s it’s a police procedural. I felt like I was watching an episode of Law and Order or CSI or Criminal Minds or something Todd, because, it, it basically opens up with a murder, and it’s this man who carves his pumpkin. And, actually, I thought that I thought the way this move this segment opened was really clever. It really hits home the violence and the brutality of carving a pumpkin if you were a pumpkin. Right? It’s just this and the knife knife knifing sounds and the guts, you know, kinda squishy sounds altogether. In fact, they probably got all of probably every movie gets their knifing sounds from somebody stabbing a pumpkin.   It’s it’s gotta be. Yeah. I’m convinced after watching this and it’s just slow mo, you know, these quick cuts of of of this guy carving this pumpkin, and he’s carved this evil face And, he turns around and his wife goes off to get something from the kitchen, and the pumpkin eats him. The pumpkin bites his head off. It’s great. I thought it was fantastic. 

Craig:  We 

Todd:  and I don’t and immediately, I’m thinking this is just hitting all the right notes, and why have I never seen anything quite like this before? Except, of course, Halloween 3. The pumpkin didn’t quite you know, the pumpkin mask didn’t quite bite people’s heads off, but it certainly Right. Right. Evokes that imagery when you’ve got this man there, and this pumpkin, biting down on him. So anyway, the pumpkin, as she comes into the room, the pumpkin runs off. It like sprouts green legs, green, vine type legs and scurries away. And so the cops are called in and it’s just this comedic, Craig, like this comedic procedural, I think, where the cops are running around town, chasing down this pumpkin. And finally, they corner it and the cop blows, ends up blowing it away.   And and there’s all this typical cop talk in too, which is real funny like 

Craig:  Oh, jeez. Might have the case of the man who stuck his head in a binder. I’m about making a meal with it. His friends are bossing this? He’s all over it. 

Todd:  And, when he picks up, a piece of the pumpkin, he notices where the pumpkin was made, and it’s a super pumpkin, a 100% organic, kind of like the Dole sticker that you’d find on a banana. And so they track, it down to a company, and of course, it’s this company that’s still got some scientists working in there late late at night who can answer the door. Anyway, they let him he lets them in, and it’s it’s a professor or whatever. And the professor is played by Joe Dante, who is another big name actor, you know, from Gremlins, from oh my gosh. Yeah. Director. Yes. From so many movies.   And he leads them in. And essentially, it has this, this the shock ending for this one is that they look in and this warehouse is absolutely filled with all of these pumpkins. So we we you know, this won’t be the end of the pumpkins terrorizing people. 

Craig:  Right. 

Todd:  Thanks to the genetically modified stuff of this company. So, yeah, it’s got, it’s got more of that corporate, corporate horror feel to it. 

Craig:  Well and did you catch the name of the company? 

Todd:  Oh, gosh. Was that a reference? What was that? It was Clovercore. No way. Yeah. You’re right. Clover Corporation. Oh, man. I was it was so late when I watched this film.   Yeah. 

Craig:  So, yeah, so it wasn’t silver Shamrock exactly, but definitely a shout out to, you know, this, corporation that’s developing these evil Halloween themed things. And and, you know, I we had just watched Halloween 3 last week, and that was the first time I had ever seen it. Had I seen this last week before we watched that, it would have totally gone over my head. But having just seen it, I I I just thought it was so funny and clever. The other thing that I liked about this one, was that, this it’s this female detective, detective McNally, who is doing the, investigation. And at some point, she goes in and she has to talk to her chief, and he plays it, you know, like any stereotypical gruff chief. 

Clip:  I mean, check these reports out. We’ve got hysterical blindness. We got neighbors attacking neighbors. Kids looting convenience stores. There’s even a report of a UFO. 

Craig:  And so it it kind of ties all the stories together, in a really clever way there at the end. And, I I appreciated that. I appreciated that effort to remind us at the end that all of this is set in the same place. But I really thought that they did a good job of of doing that throughout. Like I said, different characters and actors who appear in one, segment, you’ll find them in the background of other segments, and, a lot of the little kids, the, trick or treating kids, recur in several of the, segments, and I like that. I liked it about trick or treat. I liked it about this. Do I like this movie as well as trick or treat? No, I don’t.   But if and the 2 are are as far as I know, are not tied to one another directly in any way. But they’re so similar that it’s hard not to draw connections. And had this been, it’s not, but had this been the sequel to trick or treat we had been promised, I wouldn’t have been disappointed. I would have thought, not as good as the original, but how often are they? Hardly ever. And still a solid effort. And I found it to be really entertaining, a lot of fun, something that again, you know, I say this all the time. I guess maybe Halloween just lends itself to these types of parties. But sit down, you know, with some friends, have a couple beers, or or don’t even sit Todd, you know? Mingle around, come back to the TV every once in a while, and you get, you know, these short little stories that you can kinda, you know, they’re like hors d’oeuvres, they’re like little one bite things.   You don’t have to devote a full hour and a half or a full 2 hours to them in order to appreciate and enjoy them. And I thought it was great, you know. I I, rented this online, and I think that I’m gonna have to actually purchase it. Because I think that this is gonna be something that I’m gonna wanna revisit. 

Todd:  Yeah. You know, and I think it’s also partially because we’re so starved for these kind of movies. Like, we we like them and we want them and we really want them around Halloween. And I think that reason is because it’s these these anthology stories, being multiple stories back to back, very evocative of the kind of thing that you do traditionally around Halloween, and that is sit around a campfire or sit around and just tell, tell stories, tell spooky stories. And in that way, those stories end up being urban legend kind of things, which is why I do not criticize this movie at all for having an urban legend feel. To me, it just evokes more of that sitting by the campfire kind of vibe. 

Craig:  Yeah. I I couldn’t agree with you more. I I, like you said, you know, and we talk about this all the time, how we are big fans, how we hope that this will become a trend. And and I really think that it might. Know, I’m keeping my fingers crossed. I’m knocking on wood. Supposedly we’re getting a return of Tales from the Crypt on network television, some or cable television sometime soon. So maybe we’re gonna see more of this and I I I I certainly hope so.   Alright, folks. Well, thanks for, tuning in today. Happy Happy Halloween. It’s kinda sad that we’re ending this season once again, but we’ve got a whole another year for, in store. So if you liked this episode, we’ve got a whole backlog of them now on Itunes and Stitcher. Talk to us on Facebook. Let us know what you think. Give us some suggestions for movies, that you’d like for us to talk about, or give us some feedback on what you think of the movies that we’ve seen.   We’d love to, have a conversation with you. But until we meet again, I’m Craig. And I’m Todd. With 2 Guys and a Chainsaw.